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primum non nocere sans documentum ([personal profile] delight) wrote2018-09-04 10:14 pm

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So I do not have an AO3 account because I don't write fanfic that I'm willing to show anyone (though I've considered joining just to be able to do 'Original Work' for treats for exchanges that I watch), but a discussion on a friend's journal just now had me wondering about something and I went to check.

And I have discovered that while there are multiple freeform 'the dog lives' tags, there is no uniformly applied tag for "the dog doesn't die" that one can also use to find fics that include dogs that don't die.

But at least a lot of people are warning for whether or not dogs die, because that's basically the only thing I would want a concrete warning for. (Well, that and the one DNW EVER that no one ever warns for, so I accept it as something to make me DNF a thing rather than not start it.)
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[personal profile] recessional 2018-09-05 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
That is good to know! *CONSIDERS* Does it need to be on-screen or is mention of it as a thing that happens also a concern? (Obvi, either is fine, it just lets me set the mental marker).

And while I would absolutely still send a note of "oh hey, thing!", is it useful or irrelevant to add details like "it's someone in a terrible relationship connecting outside that relationship before ending the terrible one" or "this person is up in the air about whether they will ever be able to see their partner again/if their partner is alive anymore" in terms of parsing/deciding? ETA: Oh, the other factor I could see being relevant or not relevant info is - would it be useful to know whether the narrative voice/story arc frames it as A Mistake/Bad Thing That This Person Did or a neutral/meaningless/good thing they did?


Like the one thing I can think of off the top of my head is that Moira, in Signifier, is likely to end up with a romantic-sexual relationship with someone in the other-world while she is still technically married/partnered to her (emotionally abusive) husband (and in fact the development of that relationship is in part what clues her in to " . . .oh. My marriage . . . was/is actually terrible and abusive and it wasn't actually cool he treated me like that . . . ").

And for the eta: in Empress in Iron there are absolutely noble-women who might end up on-screen who would both be what their society considers unfaithful and at the same time never see it as Bad from their own pov or be "punished" for it by the narrative, because, well, life is shit like that sometimes. (Delat is highly likely to think they're morons, but it's still highly likely to be similar to high-powered men in extremely patriarchal societies today.)

Again, ZERO judgement of any kind or extrapolation of anything from the answer, just again setting parameters on the matter of "is the extra detail helpful information, or a waste of time beyond the straight-up 'this will happen on-screen' forewarning?". (Since I know, like. Sometimes people are shitty and ask these things in the BUT I FEEL YOU SHOULD FEEL DIFFERENTLY way - I do not! I am just tuning the frequency.)
Edited 2018-09-05 03:00 (UTC)
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[personal profile] recessional 2018-09-05 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*THUMBS UP* <3 I have total empathetic and sympathetic respect for both "OCD is an irrational bitch by definition" and also for "okay but the issues of my emotional reaction to this in fiction and my measured ethical decisions of belief in real life are actually different issues" and that when they cross it's legit kind of a bugger.

(My most tangled one is "so I kind of eat this up in fiction with a spoon but would legitimately flip my shit over it in real life, but also I end up REALLY GROSSED OUT if I get the strong impression that the AUTHOR/NARRATIVE doesn't recognize that this is fucked up, but that doesn't actually mean that I need the narrative to PUNISH anyone involved it just needs to - oh god never mind just warn me all the time for anything even remotely in the general area of dubcon so I can avoid it . . . "

Or "someone with previously completely monosexual preference ends up with Single Case of Footnote - ie 'I only like men except for Sandy/only like women except for Paul' or whatever which triggered THE FUCK OUT OF ME when it was in The Tower and the Hive and yet if done in the right way . . .but like don't . . .expect me to be able to articulate 'the right way' because THING - "

So like, not exactly the same, but mostly just: this shit is complicated and stories tend to hit us in the part underneath our rational spaces and when you throw in brain-wiring weirdness we are just in the territory of 'this shit is complicated'.")


OH I had one more question that I thought of: stories where something starts as infidelity but things are worked out to functional (full communicative) poly in the end? This one is a little more just curiousity, but the curiousity is rooted in "the more I grasp about details of what hits and doesn't, the more I feel confident in not missing something that will in retrospect make me go 'argh I should have said'."
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[personal profile] recessional 2018-09-05 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)

THUMBS UP Cool beans that helps parameters exceedingly. :D Have a good meeting!

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[personal profile] recessional 2018-09-10 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
OH I MEANT TO COME BACK AND NOTE: have you watched Sense8/are you aware of its storylines?

Cuz if not: that is straight up literally one of the (cutest, best) relationship storylines of the series.