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primum non nocere sans documentum ([personal profile] delight) wrote2018-09-04 10:14 pm

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So I do not have an AO3 account because I don't write fanfic that I'm willing to show anyone (though I've considered joining just to be able to do 'Original Work' for treats for exchanges that I watch), but a discussion on a friend's journal just now had me wondering about something and I went to check.

And I have discovered that while there are multiple freeform 'the dog lives' tags, there is no uniformly applied tag for "the dog doesn't die" that one can also use to find fics that include dogs that don't die.

But at least a lot of people are warning for whether or not dogs die, because that's basically the only thing I would want a concrete warning for. (Well, that and the one DNW EVER that no one ever warns for, so I accept it as something to make me DNF a thing rather than not start it.)
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[personal profile] recessional 2018-09-05 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I can only assume that people who have that difficulty are rooting the concept in the idea that it's about adherence to external social Rules about relationships, rather than about the integrity and one's behaviour-in-respect-for the actual nature of the relationship itself.

Which makes sense with what I've observed about AN AWFUL LOT of human relationships of all kinds, but makes zero visceral sense to me whatsoever.

(Infidelity doesn't trigger me, as such, but it is one of those things that outside of very specific parameters will drop my respect for a character to rock bottom and like . . . colour everything about them accordingly. Which is why I had to know in detail exactly how a certain plot in Sense8 turned out before I coud risk watching it - not because the plot detail itself in this issue would trigger me, but because Something Being Gross/Wrong/Bad/Contemptible around the whole core concept ABSOLUTELY WOULD, it would just trigger in that sense of "now I'm going to be ANGRY and rESENTFUL and ARGH for MONTHS oh god can we not."*)


*fucking CA:CW I fucking hate you argh.
Edited 2018-09-05 16:28 (UTC)
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[personal profile] niqaeli 2018-09-05 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahaha, yeah, that sounds about right. Fidelity is actually a really simple concept, and YET... Funny story, though, originally I was about like you describe? Outside some very limited parameters, complete loss of respect, it will make me loathe a character rather quickly (especially depending on how the narrative interacts with it) -- but not a trigger, by any means.

And then I spent ~2-3 years living at ground zero with the ongoing emotional aftermath of infidelity. It would've been EASIER by far if it'd been my relationship, because then I could just! Have made decisions! Moved out! Ended it! Something! But no; I was whole-heartedly supporting the cheated-on person in dealing with it however they wanted, UNSURPRISINGLY... which in this case was "attempt to repair the relationship," but, yeah, had zero actual control myself over how anything went. And on top of that I was over here suppressing rage because, uh, not actually helpful to resolving anything in a healthy manner. SOMEHOW, that whole experience left me with some major issues! Including infidelity as a trigger.

This is part of why so much of the never-ending content notes war in fandom inspires only hysterical laughter as a response from me.
Edited 2018-09-05 18:21 (UTC)
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[personal profile] recessional 2018-09-05 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)

(poss. C/N to hostess: non-detailed description of real life case I was collateral to follows)

FORTUNATELY the one time something similar happened to me the piece of garbage escalated from "long term cheater" to "actually a long term nonviolent sexual predator" in terms of what we knew about him, and very rapidly, so I never had to do the long-term "I am enraged but must be supportive while friend does something I know is bad for them because anything else will just be worse and this way I'm there to catch them when it finally blows" shit and could go directly to "he is a garbage non-entity we need to get rid of as soon as possible in all ways, and also let's make sure that part where he's terrified of me STICKS."

That was the one flood gift of that cluster fuck.

But yeah I can totally see where that would get to that point.

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[personal profile] niqaeli 2018-09-05 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The good news in my case is they DID actually repair the relationship once the one party got their head out of their ass and recognised how stupid they had been/were being and took steps to repair the damage! I was glad of that on several levels, really. Just, y'know. *hands* I got a incredibly shitty souvenir from the whole experience. YAY BRAINS.